{"id":1898,"date":"2025-10-16T13:14:43","date_gmt":"2025-10-16T13:14:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/?post_type=furman-update&#038;p=1898"},"modified":"2025-10-22T15:43:09","modified_gmt":"2025-10-22T15:43:09","slug":"lecture-summary-religion-in-america-the-bible-politics-and-the-city-on-a-hill","status":"publish","type":"furman-update","link":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/lectures\/lecture-summary-religion-in-america-the-bible-politics-and-the-city-on-a-hill\/","title":{"rendered":"Lecture Summary, Religion in America: Mark Noll and Kaitlyn Schiess on the Bible, Politics, and the \u201cCity on a Hill\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center\" data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\"><strong data-start=\"97\" data-end=\"121\">Watch the recordings:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\" data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\">\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/vRKuHgqTOYM?si=lDV9P89S0Y2VM6bk\">&#8220;The Powers That Be Are Ordained by God: The Bible as a Weapon in the American Revolution&#8221; &#8211; October 7<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center\" data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\"><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/CGEspvUQF2Q?si=dXpd-uP19D_UA9Bm\">&#8220;A City on a Hill: The Bible and American Exceptionalism&#8221;- October 8<\/a><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\">\n<p data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\"><em data-start=\"495\" data-end=\"560\">\u201cIt took a Frenchman to teach Americans what made them unique.\u201d\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"562\" data-end=\"1168\">With this remark, Director <strong data-start=\"593\" data-end=\"609\">Brent Nelsen<\/strong> opened the second of two Tocqueville Center lectures on religion and the American founding. In 1831, Alexis de Tocqueville traveled across the United States to study its democratic experiment. What he found was not merely political institutions, but a society in which <strong data-start=\"920\" data-end=\"957\">religion shaped civic imagination<\/strong>. Religion, he wrote, was \u201cthe first of their political institutions,\u201d not because church and state were entwined, but because religious conviction offered a <strong data-start=\"1115\" data-end=\"1132\">moral grammar<\/strong> that made self-government possible.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1170\" data-end=\"1584\">Today, that moral grammar is fraying. But biblical language remains a persistent, if often misunderstood, part of our public life. This October, the Tocqueville Center welcomed historian <strong data-start=\"1357\" data-end=\"1397\">Mark Noll (University of Notre Dame)<\/strong> and political theologian <strong data-start=\"1423\" data-end=\"1465\">Kaitlyn Schiess (Duke Divinity School)<\/strong> for two evenings examining how the Bible has shaped American political discourse\u2014from the Revolution to the present.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1586\" data-end=\"1815\">Their lectures did not offer nostalgia for a \u201cChristian nation.\u201d Instead, they traced how Scripture has been <strong data-start=\"1695\" data-end=\"1730\">used, contested, and reimagined<\/strong>, revealing the complex ways religion and democracy intertwine in the American story.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1849\" data-end=\"2275\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1900 alignnone lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-1024x679.png\" alt=\"Brent Nelsen introduces guest Tocqueville Program speaker, Mark Noll\" width=\"1024\" height=\"679\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-1024x679.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-768x509.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-1536x1019.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-512x340.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM-1280x849.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.35.40-AM.png 1740w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/679;\" \/><\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"1822\" data-end=\"1847\">Tocqueville\u2019s Question<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"1849\" data-end=\"2275\">In his opening remarks, Nelsen reminded the audience why Tocqueville remains such a fruitful lens. Tocqueville did not find a \u201cbiblical republic.\u201d Instead, he found that Americans argued politically <strong data-start=\"2048\" data-end=\"2081\">within a shared moral horizon<\/strong>. People disagreed fiercely\u2014but they assumed a transcendent moral order existed and that Scripture, however variously interpreted, spoke to it. That assumption no longer holds in the same way.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"2277\" data-end=\"2484\">The Tocqueville Center\u2019s fall series is organized around this fact. What happens to democracy when its shared moral grammar weakens? What happens when biblical references remain, but their meanings fragment?<\/p>\n<h2 data-start=\"2491\" data-end=\"2554\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-large wp-image-1901 alignnone lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-1024x682.png\" alt=\"Mark Noll speaks at the Tocqueville Program on religion in America\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-1024x682.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-768x511.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-1536x1023.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-512x341.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM-1280x852.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.38.34-AM.png 1736w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/682;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"2491\" data-end=\"2554\">Night One: Mark Noll on the Bible in the American Revolution<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"2556\" data-end=\"2819\">On Tuesday, <strong data-start=\"2568\" data-end=\"2608\">Mark Noll (University of Notre Dame)<\/strong> delivered a lecture titled <em data-start=\"2636\" data-end=\"2727\">\u201cThe Powers That Be Are Ordained by God: The Bible as Weapon in the American Revolution.\u201d<\/em> Noll, one of the nation\u2019s leading historians of religion, began with an unmistakable claim:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"2821\" data-end=\"2894\">\n<p data-start=\"2823\" data-end=\"2894\">\u201cIt\u2019s only a slight exaggeration to say that the Bible was everywhere.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"2896\" data-end=\"3336\">From pulpits to pamphlets, Scripture saturated revolutionary America. Patriot and loyalist clergy alike framed their arguments with verses that audiences knew well. Patriots leaned on texts like Galatians 5:1 (\u201cFor freedom Christ has set us free\u201d) and the Exodus story as paradigms of liberation. Loyalists, in turn, cited Romans 13\u2014Paul\u2019s admonition to \u201cbe subject to the governing authorities\u201d\u2014as a divine prohibition against rebellion.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3338\" data-end=\"3549\">The Bible\u2019s <strong data-start=\"3350\" data-end=\"3362\">ubiquity<\/strong>, Noll emphasized, did not mean it offered clear political guidance. \u201cThe same text could be deployed to opposite ends,\u201d he noted. \u201cFor every Exodus sermon, there was a Romans 13 sermon.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3551\" data-end=\"3850\">Tom Paine famously invoked 1 Samuel 8 to denounce monarchy, portraying the demand for a king as a sin against God. Anglican clergy countered with Deuteronomy\u2019s prescriptions for kings, suggesting monarchy could be righteous. Both sides reached for the same book\u2014and found ammunition for their cause.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"3852\" data-end=\"3903\">Noll\u2019s core historical point cut through the noise:<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"3905\" data-end=\"4050\">\n<p data-start=\"3907\" data-end=\"4050\">\u201cSerious historical study does not justify describing the founding of the United States as distinctly, singularly, or unequivocally Christian.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"4052\" data-end=\"4308\">The Revolution was steeped in Scripture but <strong data-start=\"4096\" data-end=\"4146\">not governed by a single theological consensus<\/strong>. Biblical language functioned as a <strong data-start=\"4182\" data-end=\"4215\">rhetorical and moral resource<\/strong>, not a blueprint. This reality complicates both secular and religious myths of the founding.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"4310\" data-end=\"4313\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"4315\" data-end=\"4377\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-1902 size-large lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-1024x680.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"680\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-1024x680.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-768x510.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-1536x1019.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-512x340.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM-1280x849.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.40.09-AM.png 1736w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/680;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"4315\" data-end=\"4377\">Panel Response: Scripture as Common Vocabulary\u2014Then and Now<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"4379\" data-end=\"4595\">The evening\u2019s panel featured <strong data-start=\"4408\" data-end=\"4450\">Kaitlyn Schiess (Duke Divinity School)<\/strong>, <strong data-start=\"4452\" data-end=\"4491\">John Barrington (Furman University)<\/strong>, and <strong data-start=\"4497\" data-end=\"4536\">Grant Wacker (Duke Divinity School)<\/strong>. Each highlighted different dimensions of Noll\u2019s argument.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"4599\" data-end=\"5135\"><strong data-start=\"4599\" data-end=\"4610\">Schiess<\/strong> argued that the Bible no longer functions as a shared cultural text in the way it did in the 18th century. Even then, its authority was contested, but at least it provided <strong data-start=\"4783\" data-end=\"4806\">a common vocabulary<\/strong> for public debate. Today, in a pluralistic society with waning biblical literacy, that shared reference point is weaker. She suggested that Christians should respond not by demanding cultural dominance, but by reclaiming Scripture <strong data-start=\"5038\" data-end=\"5062\">as the church\u2019s book<\/strong>, modeling responsible use rather than wielding it as a blunt instrument.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"5139\" data-end=\"5451\"><strong data-start=\"5139\" data-end=\"5153\">Barrington<\/strong> placed Noll\u2019s claims in context by underscoring the deep anti-Catholic sentiment of the revolutionary era. Religious language was not simply moral\u2014it was often polemical. The Quebec Act, for example, helped galvanize Protestant fears, and references to papal tyranny became potent political tools.<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"5455\" data-end=\"5779\"><strong data-start=\"5455\" data-end=\"5465\">Wacker<\/strong> drew attention to the difference between <strong data-start=\"5507\" data-end=\"5540\">biblical language as backdrop<\/strong> and <strong data-start=\"5545\" data-end=\"5575\">rhetoric that moves people<\/strong>. Scripture was everywhere, but \u201cit\u2019s not always what changed minds.\u201d Paine\u2019s line\u2014<em data-start=\"5658\" data-end=\"5714\">\u201cWe have it in our power to make the world over again\u201d<\/em>\u2014may have stirred hearts more than any single biblical quotation.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"5781\" data-end=\"5941\">In short, Noll\u2019s lecture and the panel together painted a nuanced picture: the Bible structured the language of the Revolution but did not dictate its outcomes.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"5943\" data-end=\"5946\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"5948\" data-end=\"6001\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1906 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-1024x683.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-1536x1025.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-512x342.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM-1280x854.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.42.54-AM.png 1742w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/683;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"5948\" data-end=\"6001\">Night Two: Kaitlyn Schiess on the \u201cCity on a Hill\u201d<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"6003\" data-end=\"6152\">On Wednesday, <strong data-start=\"6017\" data-end=\"6059\">Kaitlyn Schiess (Duke Divinity School)<\/strong> delivered the second lecture: <em data-start=\"6090\" data-end=\"6150\">\u201cA City on a Hill: The Bible and American Exceptionalism.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6154\" data-end=\"6432\">Schiess began with an observation: <strong data-start=\"6189\" data-end=\"6280\">explicit biblical citation has largely disappeared from contemporary political rhetoric<\/strong>, replaced by vague nods to \u201cfaith\u201d or cultural references familiar to certain audiences. But one phrase has endured almost uniquely\u2014\u201ca city on a hill.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"6434\" data-end=\"6582\">\n<p data-start=\"6436\" data-end=\"6582\">\u201cThe most American biblical habit might be this one: to quote something from the Bible to death until we don\u2019t even remember it\u2019s from the Bible.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"6584\" data-end=\"6840\">The line comes from Matthew 5:14, part of Jesus\u2019s Sermon on the Mount: <em data-start=\"6655\" data-end=\"6729\">\u201cYou are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden.\u201d<\/em> Jesus was speaking to his followers about their visibility as a community of faith\u2014not about national destiny.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"6842\" data-end=\"7151\">In 1630, John Winthrop repurposed this image aboard the <em data-start=\"6898\" data-end=\"6907\">Arbella<\/em> in his sermon <em data-start=\"6922\" data-end=\"6952\">A Model of Christian Charity<\/em>. For Winthrop and his fellow Puritans, the phrase was <strong data-start=\"7007\" data-end=\"7020\">a warning<\/strong> as much as a hope. If they failed to live up to their covenant with God, they would not shine\u2014they would become a cautionary tale.<\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"7153\" data-end=\"7271\">\n<p data-start=\"7155\" data-end=\"7271\">\u201cFor we must consider that we shall be as a city upon a hill,\u201d Winthrop wrote. \u201cThe eyes of all people are upon us.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"7273\" data-end=\"7685\">For centuries, the line lay largely dormant in American public life. But in the Cold War era, it resurfaced as a way to <strong data-start=\"7393\" data-end=\"7424\">frame America\u2019s global role<\/strong>. John F. Kennedy used the image in 1961; Ronald Reagan made it famous in his 1989 farewell address. By then, the note of warning had been replaced by triumph. Winthrop\u2019s trembling covenantal vision had become Reagan\u2019s shining beacon of national exceptionalism.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"7687\" data-end=\"7958\">Schiess\u2019s central argument was not that this shift is simply good or bad\u2014but that <strong data-start=\"7769\" data-end=\"7811\">biblical language has been transformed<\/strong> through its political use. A theological image of Christian communal life became a <strong data-start=\"7895\" data-end=\"7921\">civil religious slogan<\/strong>, detached from its original meaning.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"7960\" data-end=\"7963\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"7965\" data-end=\"8021\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1910 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.55.08-AM-1024x675.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"675\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.55.08-AM-1024x675.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.55.08-AM-768x506.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.55.08-AM-512x338.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.55.08-AM.png 1098w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/675;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"7965\" data-end=\"8021\">Panel Response: From Civil Religion to Civic Literacy<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"8023\" data-end=\"8190\">A response panel featuring <strong data-start=\"8050\" data-end=\"8090\">Mark Noll (University of Notre Dame)<\/strong> and <strong data-start=\"8095\" data-end=\"8135\">Helen Lee Turner (Furman University)<\/strong> brought the discussion back to Tocqueville\u2019s themes.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8192\" data-end=\"8548\">Turner reflected on decades of teaching college students. \u201cEven those who grew up in church,\u201d she said, \u201cknow less Bible than they did forty years ago.\u201d The erosion of biblical literacy matters\u2014not because everyone must be Christian, but because <strong data-start=\"8438\" data-end=\"8489\">fewer people can recognize or critically engage<\/strong> the religious language that still shapes political speech.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8550\" data-end=\"8870\">Noll raised a historical comparison: Winthrop\u2019s original warning was echoed in many different American moments, including Jimmy Carter\u2019s \u201cmalaise\u201d speech\u2014a rare modern instance of a president invoking moral responsibility rather than celebratory exceptionalism. Such appeals are fragile in today\u2019s polarized environment.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"8872\" data-end=\"9295\">Schiess responded by urging humility. Christians, she argued, should resist collapsing the distance between Scripture itself and their political interpretations of it. When politicians claim divine authority for their platforms, they narrow the space for real democratic deliberation. A healthier approach is to bring religious language into public life <strong data-start=\"9226\" data-end=\"9239\">as a gift<\/strong>, recognizing that others bring their own languages too.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"9297\" data-end=\"9300\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"9302\" data-end=\"9348\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1907 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-1024x683.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-1536x1024.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-512x341.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM-1280x853.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.44.26-AM.png 1740w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/683;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"9302\" data-end=\"9348\">\u201cBible Haunted\u201d: A Diagnosis of the Present<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"9350\" data-end=\"9462\">Perhaps the most memorable phrase of the night came when Schiess described America today as <strong data-start=\"9442\" data-end=\"9462\">\u201cBible haunted.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote data-start=\"9464\" data-end=\"9595\">\n<p data-start=\"9466\" data-end=\"9595\">\u201cWe are a nation that is Bible haunted\u2014filled with biblical language, images, and stories, but drained of much of their meaning.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p data-start=\"9597\" data-end=\"9922\">She explained that Americans still use phrases like \u201ccity on a hill,\u201d \u201cgood Samaritan,\u201d and \u201cpromised land,\u201d but often without knowing their scriptural origins or theological significance. This leaves biblical language <strong data-start=\"9816\" data-end=\"9839\">ripe for distortion<\/strong>. Politicians and movements can wield familiar words stripped of their moral depth.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"9924\" data-end=\"10222\">Yet, for Schiess, the haunting is not only a problem\u2014it\u2019s an opening. These lingering biblical echoes point to a continuing <strong data-start=\"10048\" data-end=\"10077\">longing for transcendence<\/strong>, a moral horizon that political language alone can\u2019t supply. That longing is why these metaphors endure, even as their original meanings recede.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"10224\" data-end=\"10227\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"10229\" data-end=\"10264\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1908 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-1024x680.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"680\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-1024x680.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-768x510.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-1536x1020.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-512x340.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM-1280x850.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.21-AM.png 1740w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/680;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"10229\" data-end=\"10264\">Tocqueville\u2019s Insight, Revisited<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"10266\" data-end=\"10601\">Tocqueville saw religion as crucial to democratic life not because it imposed unity, but because it provided citizens with <strong data-start=\"10389\" data-end=\"10422\">shared moral reference points<\/strong> that made disagreement meaningful. In the 18th century, Americans didn\u2019t agree on what Scripture demanded\u2014but they agreed it mattered. Today, that shared moral grammar is weaker.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"10603\" data-end=\"10849\">The Tocqueville Center\u2019s October lectures did not offer a program to restore it wholesale. Instead, they modeled what Tocqueville thought democracy needed: <strong data-start=\"10759\" data-end=\"10792\">serious historical reflection<\/strong>, <strong data-start=\"10794\" data-end=\"10817\">theological clarity<\/strong>, and <strong data-start=\"10823\" data-end=\"10846\">open civic dialogue<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"10851\" data-end=\"11126\">Noll reminded us that Scripture\u2019s political role has always been complex, even in the founding era. Schiess showed how political use of the Bible transforms its meaning over time. Both emphasized that biblical language can <strong data-start=\"11074\" data-end=\"11088\">illuminate<\/strong>, but also <strong data-start=\"11099\" data-end=\"11110\">distort<\/strong>, public debate.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"11128\" data-end=\"11131\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"11133\" data-end=\"11151\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-1909 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-1024x683.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-1024x683.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-1536x1025.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-512x342.png 512w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM-1280x854.png 1280w, https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/67\/2025\/10\/Screenshot-2025-10-16-at-8.45.55-AM.png 1742w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/683;\" \/><\/h2>\n<h2 data-start=\"11133\" data-end=\"11151\">What Comes Next<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"11153\" data-end=\"11438\">The Tocqueville Center continues its fall series with <strong data-start=\"11207\" data-end=\"11228\">Homecoming Events<\/strong> on <strong data-start=\"11232\" data-end=\"11249\">October 23\u201324<\/strong>, featuring <strong data-start=\"11261\" data-end=\"11296\">John Tomasi (Heterodox Academy)<\/strong>, <strong data-start=\"11298\" data-end=\"11333\">Ben Sasse (former U.S. Senator)<\/strong>, and <strong data-start=\"11339\" data-end=\"11378\">Elizabeth Davis (Furman University)<\/strong> on f<a href=\"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/events\">ree speech and the crisis in American higher education<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"11440\" data-end=\"11544\">As the nation approaches the 250th anniversary of its founding, these lectures raise pressing questions:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li data-start=\"11548\" data-end=\"11642\">Can a democratic people sustain meaningful public discourse without a shared moral language?<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"11645\" data-end=\"11738\">How can religious communities model responsible engagement rather than culture-war slogans?<\/li>\n<li data-start=\"11741\" data-end=\"11810\">What happens to democracy when its \u201cBible haunting\u201d deepens\u2014or fades?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p data-start=\"11812\" data-end=\"12076\">Tocqueville believed that democracy required more than free institutions. It required citizens capable of grappling with ultimate questions. These two evenings suggested that <strong data-start=\"11987\" data-end=\"12029\">the recovery of serious moral language<\/strong>\u2014not its erasure\u2014may be part of the work ahead.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"11812\" data-end=\"12076\">To paraphrase Kaitlyn Schiess, if we no longer share a stable moral grammar, we need institutions\u2014churches, schools, centers of inquiry\u2014that teach people how to read before they rally: to interpret charitably, reason publicly, and act justly.<\/p>\n<hr data-start=\"12326\" data-end=\"12329\" \/>\n<h2 data-start=\"12331\" data-end=\"12341\">Join Us<\/h2>\n<p data-start=\"12449\" data-end=\"12600\">Bring a friend. Bring your questions. Join the conversation as we continue to ask Tocqueville\u2019s enduring questions.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"12602\" data-end=\"12665\"><em data-start=\"12602\" data-end=\"12665\">\u2014 The Tocqueville Center for the Study of Democracy &amp; Society<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Watch the recordings: \u00a0&#8220;The Powers That Be Are Ordained by God: The Bible as a Weapon in the American Revolution&#8221; &#8211; October 7 &#8220;A City on a Hill: The Bible [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":1899,"template":"","update-categories":[10],"class_list":["post-1898","furman-update","type-furman-update","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","furman-update-category-past-lectures"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/lectures\/1898","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/lectures"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/furman-update"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/lectures\/1898\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1939,"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/lectures\/1898\/revisions\/1939"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1899"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1898"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"furman-update-category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.furman.edu\/academics\/tocqueville-program\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/update-categories?post=1898"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}